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Nov 2011
My Split Breakdown: Analyzing Past Marathons To Get Faster
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Dorothy, where did you get your triple stroller? Random question.
I bought it used from someone else. If you click on Mile Posts store on the top there is a triple stroller listed. Finding a triple that isn't 1K is really hard
I'm curious as to how you interpret your pace on miles 9-12 on the MCM. Were they too far under your target pace, or did you think of them as making up for the pace on the earlier miles?
Also, why did the 6:59 mile at Columbus startle you but not mile 9, which was a 7:03?
Finally, have you noticed a trend in when your body shifts gears? My longest race distance is just 10 miles, but I've noticed for all races over 5K (over several years), my fastest mile is consistently mile 4.
Thanks!
I jsut did this with my last two marathons to try and plan my strategy for Richmond in two weeks. I wasn't sure if I was grabbing at straws for some hard evidence I can do this (I'm totally in taper crazies — "I'm losing my fitness! I should run 15 miles today! What am I doing!?"). Good point point, Stephanie about looking for where your body naturally switches gears. Might be able to harness some power by being aware of that.
Dorothy do you incorporate any kind of strength training? If so, do you use free weights or do isometric type of exercises? Great posts by the way.
i haven't analyzed mine, but the benefits seem so obvious. interesting to see you splits and the explanations. i definitely think about this stuff post-races, but never did a by-the-numbers compare which is shocking since i'm an excel nerd.
I've never analyzed my splits before, but after seeing that chart, it made me think maybe I should. It was interesting to see the mile splits in chart form like that and read why you thought each race went the way it did.
I wish my Garmin (FR60) footpod was effectively calibrated (10 runs later and we are still working on it!) so that I had accurate splits. I have been DYING to do some analysis on them (why yes I was an economics geek that likes playing with, though not crunching, numbers
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Great analysis and I think this is an important exercise to learn as much as possible from past races. I always analyze my marathon splits and my best times were actually when I had very even pacing. I think I might be able to run faster with more of a negative split, but given all of my mishaps I haven't been able to test that theory. . .
I have analyzed my splits after but never side by side and with colors! Great idea!
I still have yet to come close to an even split. I think like 6 minute positive split is my best? Coincidentally that is also my PR…you seen to be a big supporter of negative splits. I would love to hear your thoughts on how to best run the NYC course!
Nice comparison chart. Do you also run by heart-rate? How would you rate the comparative effort between the marathons?
I know you get many questions and can't respond to all. But it seems like you leave many people hanging by not answering some of them. I noticed you have a comments section and offer people to ask any kind of questions. Maybe you should remove this option if you'd rather not answer. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just think maybe acknowledge that this is blog about your opinions and that questions most likely won't be answered.
Anonymous – I do not typically respond to anonymous comments but I will this time. Many people choose to leave their real email address's when they leave comments. When those people ask me a comment specifically relating to themselves I respond to them directly over email. Unfortunately blogger does not have an easy way for me to respond to comments other than leaving one myself. Yes some questions go unanswered. I am a mom of three children and while I love blogging, talking about running and helping as many people as I can – my children are my priority. Was there a specific question you had that you felt I did not answer? It would be awesome if you left a comment where you revealed who you were rather than hiding under the anon name so I could respond to you in email rather than through a blog comment. Thanks! Mile Posts
Ryan – I don't run based on heartrate – I do all of my training based on effort. I have a heartrate monitor and do use it from time to time but I prefer to run on feel!
Celia – I think negative splitting – starting out slower and getting faster is the best way to run a marathon. If you start out too fast you will slow down at the end, where as if you start out slower you will be able to pick it up at the end. I have yet to perfect this but am getting much better at it. When I first started running marathons I would start out at much the same pace I start out now and would die after mile 20 and end up walking most of the last 6.2. I've never run the NYC marathon, just the last 10 miles of the course. I personally think it is a very hard marathon because of all the waiting around you have to do at the start. I do however think that you should start out 45 seconds to a minute slower than your goal race pace and slower lower your pace as the race goes on. There will be some miles that are faster than your goal pace, which will then average out your slower miles in the beginning. Hope that helps and good luck at NYC!
Jeff – I do strength training! Mostly core work but I also lift free weights at home. I use my bosu ball a lot to help work on tiny muscles through out my body. Most recently I started taking a isolated active stretching class and I think that is helping me as well. I'm not a member of the gym so everything I do are things that can be done at home. Does that help?
Stephanie – the 6:59 freaked me out because it was the 1st time I had even seen a mile begin with a 6 in a marathon. The 7:03 at Columbus and 7:01's at Marine Corps didn't because they began with a 7. I know that sounds ridiculous but something about seeing a 6 made me think I should back off a little – even though I should have just convinced my mind that 6:59 was a comfortable pace. I really believe that what the mind believes helps control the body. When my mind is weak at any point my body follows that weakness.
I think miles 9 – 12 at MCM were perfect – I had started out slower and was starting to pick up the pace. I believe had I not ran Columbus 2 weeks prior I would have been able to maintain that pace longer. I believe the only way to run your full potential in a marathon is to start at much slower than your goal pace, work into your goal pace and then go faster than your goal pace.
I have not noticed when my body shifts gears – but I do find it VERY interesting that miles 6 & 7 were the exact same pace at both marathons….strange.
Hope that helps!
I always analyze my splits, and think about what I could do better to run faster next time. What is even more interesting to me is that our splits for MCM are different – even for the miles that we ran side by side! (goes to show that Garmins aren't always 100% accurate). I actually have a 6:59 split for mile 11. My first ever in a marathon!!
That's crazy our splits are different! Garmin is not the be all end all as we know
6:59 – wooo hooo!!! 3:08:18 or bust!! xoxo
Thanks! It's definitely helpful to see how others approach racing.
I had the same experience of running side by side a friend during a race and seeing slightly different splits registered by our Garmin (she had us at 6:54; I saw 7:02). Could be that she just had a little more kick than I did at the end of it, but I agree with Lauren that Garmin's aren't 100% accurate. They do give clear feedback that helps me know if I'm staying within my targets (normally trying to do negative splits during training runs).